Nice first show! Project Pat did a nice job guiding the flow of the show, good topics.

Would love to see a little more push back from Pat, bring a little more of his own takes and stand on business with them, a little too much echo (chamber).

Maybe add a debate section. Not looking for screaming match, loudest guy wins type trash that’s out there now, more of a nuanced back and forth. Maybe put topics in the chat and pick one for the next show so you can really dive in.

Not banging on Pat at all, just offering what I personally would like to see more of, coming from a place of leveling up!

Great breakdown, just watched it while I’m waiting for my daughter’s vision therapy, very excited to get this kid. Love when you show what the kids supposed to do on the play (the madden drawings) helps us who are more visual.

Funny his first start was Texas and first OSU start will be Texas.

Do you need a desktop for Nord VPN for the box? I get how VPN works for my phone, but how would it work on the TV?

pmully717 said:

Do you use a VPN with it?

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I didn't until last week when I got the Nord VPN that started advertising with us. Now I do use one!

Zach Smith said:

Oh yeah - still a thing! Promo Code is MENACE. You can watch any game you want.

www.getabox.com

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Do you use a VPN with it?

pmully717 said:

is get a box still a thing? I couldn’t find the promo code. Can I watch out of market baseball games with it?

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Oh yeah - still a thing! Promo Code is MENACE. You can watch any game you want.

www.getabox.com

Zach Smith said:

Some people are so lazy that they have to tear one person down to build another up. It's also hilarious his first two WR he brought up for Hartline were kids I recruited and got committed lmao

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Right, and I’ve said that before on his platform, say the word and he will get roasted! #LoyalToMenace

Some people are so lazy that they have to tear one person down to build another up. It's also hilarious his first two WR he brought up for Hartline were kids I recruited and got committed lmao

FuckTTUN said:

of course he is... Zach built Zone 6... a bunch of retards tried to stop him... then he made the best podcast in the fuckin world and showed that the ops can't stop him.

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That’s what I’m saying! I don’t understand why discredit Zach’s hard work. RJ is usually pretty cool, not sure why he had to compare.

of course he is... Zach built Zone 6... a bunch of retards tried to stop him... then he made the best podcast in the fuckin world and showed that the ops can't stop him.

TheKYBuckeye said:

With this Matt Patricia news. First I'm excited, you don't fake 3 super bowls and top 10 defenses and not know what you're doing. Also Bill Belichek thought so highly of his football IQ, he thought he could be a flipping OC. People bring up the lions, but they have been a train wreck for decades. Everyone has sucked there.

But my conspiracy mind thinks he wasn't quite ready to pull the trigger on MG or OG Walt. I think Patricia is going to be similar to Kelly. 1 maybe 2 years then back to the nfl. Then promote one or both those guys.

Or Day has gone full Saban and said F it. Anyone can leave and I'm just gonna get the next guy to keep this train going.

We've had coke head gameday Ryan, maybe this is off-season Meth head Ryan.

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no kidding... I love the hire tho many don't

With this Matt Patricia news. First I'm excited, you don't fake 3 super bowls and top 10 defenses and not know what you're doing. Also Bill Belichek thought so highly of his football IQ, he thought he could be a flipping OC. People bring up the lions, but they have been a train wreck for decades. Everyone has sucked there.

But my conspiracy mind thinks he wasn't quite ready to pull the trigger on MG or OG Walt. I think Patricia is going to be similar to Kelly. 1 maybe 2 years then back to the nfl. Then promote one or both those guys.

Or Day has gone full Saban and said F it. Anyone can leave and I'm just gonna get the next guy to keep this train going.

We've had coke head gameday Ryan, maybe this is off-season Meth head Ryan.

FuckTTUN said:

I wouldn't label you a Day apologist. I think your points are all valid, and Ryan has faced things other coaches haven't had to deal with though there have also been advantages to coaching in his era. Another question I pose since it relates to our discussion. If the hammer turns out not to be Buckeye Scoop fan fiction, and those three games actually get vacated... Does it impact Ryan's legacy? Not necessarily whether it should or shouldn't, but does it make an impact?

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That's a really interesting point. 21,22,23 could all be vacated. I think it would make a huge difference if he hadn't of lost this year. If he beat them this year and the NCAA dropped the hammer. Then that would change the perception of him greatly. But that loss this was almost inexcusable. The cheating does also make you wonder how that has affected the two programs on multiple levels. Not even just the results of the game. If TTUN doesn't dodge us in 2020 I think we put them in the grave forever. But those years of cheating caused TTUN to be seen as legit with kids staying another year and recruiting to start getting momentum. Unfortunately I think it has caused bad mental health for Day. And how does that mindset from him affect the program. If you think about it, the cheating scandal has a much deeper consequence than just the game results. Coaches mental health, players mental health, transfers, recruits, staffing, money. Even the strain on these coaches and players families. Honestly as I was just writing it down I never really thought about all of the consequences before. Man TTUN should get more than the hammer. Drop one of Pats fat one night stands on them. That'll show em.

TheKYBuckeye said:

So I wasn't including urban florida time. And just incase in matters I'm not a Day apologist. I was definitely a fire him after the game this year guy. This is more of me just sitting and thinking while I drank my morning coffe in silence before work. I just wonder if because Urban won a NC so soon and he took care of TTUN. If we give him more grace for his tenure. After 14, we had very bad hires, bad games, embarrassing Playoff loss. I am in not way saying Day is above any of those coaches you listed. And all of these guys coaches in much different eras of each other so it's very hard to go Apples for apples. I do think Day has faced and coaches in a completely uncharted time in college football. NIL is a big change to how you can coach and also how yiu can even recruit. Now I think given time urban would have mastered it. But it all boils down to TTUN. If day was 4-2 or crazy even 6-0 like urban, we would be putting him up there and maybe even a head of him if you compare the two. This is just some shit I'm wondering and maybe even a little devils advocate. Just having fun with talking to the army. Thanks for the convo army

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I wouldn't label you a Day apologist. I think your points are all valid, and Ryan has faced things other coaches haven't had to deal with though there have also been advantages to coaching in his era. Another question I pose since it relates to our discussion. If the hammer turns out not to be Buckeye Scoop fan fiction, and those three games actually get vacated... Does it impact Ryan's legacy? Not necessarily whether it should or shouldn't, but does it make an impact?

NCBill said:

what Peptides are you taking? I started my plan to get my health back but want to know what Peptides you are taking that you talk about?

side not thanks for the Box tip…have 4 now and cancelled everything!

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They are in the Menace Transformation post if you want to scroll down to the list. I am only taking 2 right now!